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Rense has a fascinating post by General Leonid Ivashov, who was, among other things, the Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces. It casts a much different light on the so-called War on Terror, and easily explains a number of things that could not possibly happen, according to the official view, but did.

He says that INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM DOES NOT EXIST!

Roberta Kelly

First week of December 2005:

Once again, George W. Bush took time to speak of the war. And, again, he simply capitalized on his "political capital" by grandstanding a photo-op and his standard one liner political jaw bone bull shit.

The greatest men in history were high-minded and LITERATE. Their speeches are known to have stirred in our human spirit its greatness; and, therefore awakening in those of our species who can hear, an evolving consciousness that births higher states of altruism.

For example, at the end of the first year of war, in Athens, Greece, a custom was held to honor all the dead who were killed in the war. The Athenians held as their custom, an elaborate funeral for their soldiers.

The year before he died in the horrifying plague that decimated Athens, Pericles delivered a Funeral Oration over the brave dead Athenians. Granted, he was a brilliant and charismatic politician and a general and therefore, it is to be expected that one so experienced in honor could obviously speak intelligently, compassionately and honestly, to those who gave the greatest sacrifice in battle, their lives, to the freedom of Greece.

It seems, Pericles understood the true meaning of "noble cause" and "sacrifice." But, then, he didn't just dress up and pretend at being a statesman, he was one.

"The Funeral Oration is the classic statement of Athenian ideology, containing practically in full the patriotic sentiment felt by most Athenians."

"Such was the end of these men; they were worthy of Athens, and the living need not desire to have a more heroic spirit, although they may pray for a less fatal issue. The value of such a spirit is not to be expressed in words. Any one can discourse to you for ever about the advantages of a brave defense, which you know already. But instead of listening to him I would have you day by day fix your eyes upon the greatness of Athens, until you become filled with the love of her; and when you are impressed by the spectacle of her glory, reflect that this empire has been acquired by men who knew their duty and had the courage to do it, who in the hour of conflict had the fear of dishonor always present to them, and who, if ever they failed in an enterprise, would not allow their virtues to be lost to their country, but freely gave their lives to her as the fairest offering which they could present at her feast. The sacrifice which they collectively made was individually repaid to them; for they received again each one for himself a praise which grows not old, and the noblest of all tombs, I speak not of that in which their remains are laid, but of that in which their glory survives, and is proclaimed always and on every fitting occasion both in word and deed. For the whole earth is the tomb of famous men; not only are they commemorated by columns and inscriptions in their own country, but in foreign lands there dwells also an unwritten memorial of them, graven not on stone but in the hearts of men. Make them your examples, and, esteeming courage to be freedom and freedom to be happiness, do not weigh too nicely the perils of war. The unfortunate who has no hope of a change for the better has less reason to throw away his life than the prosperous who, if he survive, is always liable to a change for the worse, and to whom any accidental fall makes the most serious difference. To a man of spirit, cowardice and disaster coming together are far more bitter than death striking him unperceived at a time when he is full of courage and animated by the general hope."

On July 30, 762, the city of Baghdad was built on the west bank of the Tigris and it is thought that Baghdad is to have replaced Ctesiphon, the capital of the Persian Empire.

A circular wall was built around Baghdad and it became known as the "Round City." Some believe the city's name means "God-given" derived from "bagh" (God) and "dad" (given). However, others believe it means "sheep enclosure," from an Aramaic phrase.

The destruction of this incredible city is an abomination and the only way it could occur would be by those who ". . have (has) been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice."

". . This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once."

War - the Iraqi peoples have the same right to defend their country as we do, here in America, and they have been around much longer than we have. They, too, wish to ". . day by day fix your eyes upon the greatness of Athens (Iraq, America, Earth), until you become filled with the love of her; and when you are impressed by the spectacle of her glory, reflect that this empire has been acquired by men who knew their duty and had the courage to do it."

The United States of America has no business in Iraq. The disingenuous people who call themselves ‘statesmen' need to go back and study history.

Until I see (even if its only one of), these people in our government get up and deliver a speech such as Pericles, I am refusing to honor them as statesmen. Democratic, Republican, et al.

GWB is the worst politician in ancient, past, present - certainly it will be - future, history, especially when the leader of the greatest country on Earth is compared to the leaders of the greatest civilizations on Earth.

How? Simply compare him and his honor to Pericles's! Murtha's courage is the closest it has come for our own politicians to behave, as great statesmen.

Unless we get the hell out of Iraq, immediately, we are a nation of murderers and destroyers of great civilizations. And, clearly NOT because we are great, but just because we have the weaponry to annihilate the entire planet.

Iraq - it is not for us to colonize so we can continue to consume more and more petroleum and kill all that is necessary for us to survive as a "white supremacy".

Boycott the shopping of all but absolute necessities until the war is ended. The money is why we are killing.

When is enough, enough?

LarryO

Benjamin Franklin said:

"After much occasion to consider the folly and mischiefs of a state of warfare, and the little or no advantage obtained even by those nations who have conducted it with most success, I have been apt to think that there has never been, nor will ever be, any such thing as a good war, or a bad peace."

That was two hundred years ago and more, and the only thing that has changed about war has been its efficiency. "Leaders" are no less inclined to pursue war as policy, but war is much more devastating than even Dr. Franklin could have imagined.

Marion Zimmer Bradley envisioned a human society where no weapon was permitted that did not bring its user within arms reach of its intended victim. It amuses me to imagine Donald Rumsfeld in a mano a mano swordfight with Ayman al-Zawahiri, a medical doctor. I suspect there would be far fewer warmongers if they were required to fight first.

My wife said the other day that life in the US today is like waking up in the middle of a science fiction film; it is the one where the robots have taken over everything.

Roberta

When my first son, Ian, was born, I was so overwhelmed with love that I honestly couldn't even imagine such emotion could, or can be, inside of me, my self.

But there it was and it still is.

And, in spite of all the growing pains a parent experiences in raising a child, I can say that my son, Ian, is truly a great spirit whom I have had the honor as a mother and friend, to share life with.

When I held him in my arms, after he was delivered from my womb, and we connected in the "windows of the souls," our eyes, I knew him and he knew me. This was not our first, life or time, together, to understand how to grow conscious.

In the first moment of Ian and I meeting, as mother and infant son, I understood without a shadow of a doubt - war is unacceptable! That is, unless every man, woman and child has to defend themselves by warring back, against a predator.

War is not just wrong, it is a SIN.

I actually do not adhere to the religious definition of "sin." However, in the decision making of how to define war, I call it - omnipotently, sin.

Today, 11/03/05, there are 45 definitions in the Thesaurus on-line, for sin. The one I feel compelled to choose as the best is:

carnal sin, grave sin, mortal sin, unpardonable sin, unutterable sin.

This does not mean that the other 44 definitions are not good, indeed the reading of sin defined in the Thesaurus was riveting.

I don't know if it is a judgment for me to label war a sin. But that’s not the point.

GWB has chosen to wage war and more than one. Therefore, I can't help but wonder what it means, in the energy frequency of the universe, for his part in being a high profile in the human scheme of things.

I do know that I can't find one single reason to label war as anything other than a sin.

Therefore, I also choose to believe in prayer, for a moment or two, but no more, for now.

I just want to pay my respects to GWB and pray for him, that he does find his God who is a wicked, evil, greater sinner, than any imagination could ever hope to conjure up.

Upon GWB embracing his God, fully, he opens into that spontaneity of the nano-second, and George W. Bush then reaches one-hundred percent enlightenment, to his sins, for waging war.

That is how I felt and still feel, as a mother.

My sons are both of an age, that could have mandated their participation in war, should there have been a draft, as it was during the Vietnam Era.

I think Cindy Sheehan is behaving highly civilized and sophisticated, regarding the death of her son, Casey.

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